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RetirePrep, month 2d: I dream of a walkabout (part 1)

The PolyBlog
October 7 2024

Okay, deep breath. This is the big one. The dream I have had for 20 years. Maybe longer. The one that has been invading my thoughts in the last month, the one that scares me, the one that excites me, the one that I don’t know if I’ll be able to do. A full-on walkabout.

What the heck is a walkabout?

There are probably three meanings of walkabout in the general zeitgeist of society. The first is a British term, with LIKELY racist leanings, of someone who has just wandered off and can’t be found. Someone silly or unreliable in general. The second is a DEFINITELY racist term from Australia suggesting that (mainly) Aboriginal people are unreliable and shiftless and just wander off to do whatever they want.

However, the third version is the important one, and the origin perhaps of the other two. It is indeed Australian in origin, from the Indigenous communities, and seems generally to reflect a search for one’s identity, a voyage of discovery. To intentionally go on a long journey to find yourself, to figure out what is important to you and who you are in relation to others, the land, etc. Not surprisingly, for Indigenous communities, it usually has a spiritual component to it and a strong flavour of self-discovery through the journey, rather than travelling to achieve a destination, and often involves a close commune with nature. Many Indigenous communities have an equivalent of a vision quest (of the mind and spirit), while a walkabout seems more physical in its intent.

This third one is the one that interests me, both as an idea, and as a branding of my intended experience.

I have to confess, embarrassingly so, that I probably first heard of it in the movie Crocodile Dundee. If you remember, early on in the movie, there’s a scene where Mick is telling Sue (the female journalist) about how he used to date this other woman. He went on a “walkabout” around Australia to see what was out there, and when he returned, the woman was ticked at him for going without telling her. Mick didn’t understand why it would bother her; Sue sarcastically agreed, thus mocking clueless males. Of course, the point of the joke is to make you remember what a walkabout is because, at the end of the movie, he’s leaving NYC to do a “walkabout” in America, just as Sue realizes she’s in love with him and has to chase him down into the Subway on a crowded platform before he disappears from her life for months, years, or forever (it was the 80s, no cell phones or emails).

Despite the cheesy origin of MY introduction to the concept, it stuck with me.

Initially, I desired a long trip to see “what’s out there”. Then, it became a little bit more about seeing the land from the ground instead of just flying over it. I’ve been to the Caribbean and the top of South America; I’ve been to Asia; I’ve been to Hawaii; I’ve been to Europe. But I never get much of a sense of travelling to those places while on a plane. It’s more like a really long subway ride…I got on a tube in Ottawa, I got off a tube in Mexico, and there were some pretty pics on the way. It never seemed real.

So, just as I said in my post about cruises, I often don’t feel like I am getting a true sense of the planet. Or, dun dun dun (foreshadowing), of the continent I live on.

Where do I want to go?

I want to go on a driving trip from Ottawa to Alaska, Alaska to San Diego, San Diego to New Orleans, and home again. Broken into six segments, driven back-to-back…for a total of ~25,000 km. Yep, I’m nuts.

1. Ottawa to Calgary (20d). I would start by passing through Sudbury, Thunder Bay, Winnipeg, Regina and Saskatoon, en route to Calgary. According to the CAA/AAA Triptik, the route would take a little over 38h to go 3650 km. If I limit myself to about 400 km a day, the app suggests I stop just before Sudbury, at Sault Ste. Marie, at Marathon, just after Thunder Bay, about two-thirds of the way to Winnipeg, halfway between Winnipeg and Regina, at Regina, after Saskatoon, and then at Calgary. It’s a great plan, if I was doing nothing but driving 400km a day. Not for nothing, but I expect I’m more likely to do Sudbury for the first night and then take the second day in Sudbury; same for day 3 and 4 for SSM; day 5 and 6 for Thunder Bay; day 7, 8 and 9 for Winnipeg. My real scheduling problem is what else I might want to do in Manitoba.

For example, maybe go to Churchill. Gulp. That’s a 2-day train ride, call it 5-6 days to go up and back. That one would depend I think on Andrea later…if she doesn’t have a burning desire to go to Churchill sometime in the future, I might go now; if she’s willing to go later, I’d wait for a future opportunity. Alternatively, I could go about 1 day north to Grand Rapids and then over to Saskatoon before doubling back a bit to Regina. That would be day 10-11 to get to Saskatoon, day 12 in Sask, 13-14 for Regina, and 15-16 to get to Calgary.

I could go faster in there; I could go slower in there. Some days might be a full day in each major stopping area, but it might be raining or I might just visit a museum in the morning and head out in the afternoon. I would likely give myself 20 days or so to get to Calgary, and if I’m there earlier, I’m there early.

2. Calgary to NWT, Yukon and Alaska and then to Vancouver (45d). The timing for this one is a bit more restricted as Andrea and Jacob are likely to join me for some of it. The real challenge of including them is the simple distance and resulting time; I have all the time in the world, but they do not. The app estimates 112h to do 9500 km. At four hours a day, that would take 28 days. Not including sightseeing times. If I was by myself, I’d probably estimate 45 days or so to do that whole stretch which would be pretty much 2d on, 1d off, and not necessarily many hard days.

Andrea and Jacob will likely have to figure out which portion of that they might be interested in doing. They may prefer separate trips to NWT, the Yukon or Alaska, for example. And I’ll have to make some resulting decisions about routing. I could pick them up in Calgary and take them BACK to Calgary instead of Vancouver. But neither of them are going to want to drive the whole 9500 km either. 🙂 They COULD meet me in Yellowknife and fly back from Whitehorse or Anchorage instead, knocking it down to about a third of that distance (3000). Or even travel Whitehorse to Anchorage which is only a 1000km. Or, or, or…lots of options.

I like the idea that they could maybe start in Anchorage and travel through Whitehorse to Vancouver, about 3500 km, and only 10 days or so. Both really want to see the Territories (which they would) and Jacob really wants the interior of BC with the mountains (which he would also get). That’s a long way away, though, although it really doesn’t change much for me. I’d still go to Yellowknife from Calgary. The timing challenge, other than meeting them, would be how I get to Yellowknife…some of the roads are impassable and ferries on Great Slave Lake stop running when the snow hits. I assume I’d still be fine in September (my goal is to leave Anchorage by the end of September to avoid any big issues on interior BC roads and, of course, spend most of September in the region to take advantage of the Northern Lights opportunities).

3. Around Vancouver Island, back to Vancouver, into Washington (20d). This one is surprisingly “short” in comparison, a mere 26 hours to go 1800 km. There’s a lot of backtracking, some overlap, not much to do about that unless I go sideways and do a long ferry from Alaska to the top of Vancouver Island. At the moment, I have no idea what that would cost or how feasible that would be. And if Jacob wants to see the interior of BC, it wouldn’t be my likely route anyway. For now, I’m assuming everything is under my control, no major boat trips to shave off distances. In theory, with only 26 hours and 4h a day, I could try to do this in 6 days, but that’s no way to sightsee.

I’d probably spend at least 2 days in Victoria, another couple as I went along to Tofino, another couple up in the Northern part of the island. By contrast, a couple of sections in there could easily be longer-haul days, particularly when backtracking. I could see a full 6- or 8-hour day packed in there. Let’s call it somewhere around 14 days in total, although that is a bit generous. Particularly given the fact that I’ve done the southern part of the island several times before. Except I forgot 3 or 4 days at the start in Vancouver. Call it a full 18 days, including Vancouver. I could maybe divert myself at the end to see Mount Washington, but that’s just a single-day blip. I also accidentally skipped Seattle during my route to Tacoma. Add another 2 days, 20 in total.

4. Tacoma to San Diego (14d). This segment would let me go down the coast, and I’d have some deciding to do — do I stay out by the coast and see the ocean all the way down OR do I go inland, hop over to Nevada at some point for Reno and Vegas, back out to the coast for Sacramento, San Francisco, LA, and San Diego. I don’t have a burning desire to do L.A., nor gamble in Las Vegas, but that doesn’t mean I don’t want to see them. The trip with a slightly inland routing would be 29 hours and 3000 km. So, about another 7 days-ish. Add a day for Reno and Vegas each, another 2d for ‘Frisco, 1d for L.A. (I just want to go to the Santa Monica pier and the giant beach) and perhaps 2 days in San Diego (I could spend both at the zoo looking at pandas!). That’s another 7 days, for 14 in total. Yes, I’d love to pop over the border to go to Tijuana just to say I did it, but no, I’m not crazy. Baja California calls, but I’ll stick to the U.S.

5. San Diego to New Orleans (15d). This would not be a direct route, but it would allow me to see Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas along the way. I wouldn’t go into the Grand Canyon, as that’s on a future list. Nor am I likely to do Colorado at this point either, as I might be getting into snow season in some places, depending on when the trip starts. Phoenix, Tucson, Albuquerque, Amarillo, Abilene, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Baton Rouge, and New Orleans would be the major cities, although a few are more just pass-bys than a huge desire to spend any extended time there. A half-day in most would perhaps cover it for me. The driving would be about 37 hours and 4000 km. Whew. That’s a solid segment, for what looks like a short haul. Driving is 9d approximately…call it another 5d of stopping plus a day of rest; let’s say 15d in total.

6. The trip back home (10d). From this point on, it’s about making my way home. A direct route would take me 22h and likely cross at Prescott of all places, going south of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario. That doesn’t seem like an exciting option, but it would take me through Kentucky and Alabama. I hate to spoil the surprise, but I have other plans for those states. 🙂 Instead, I will likely start with a straight shot north to Memphis, St. Louis and Chicago before crossing back at Sault Ste Marie. That adds 9h and 3100 km to the trip, call it 31h of driving or about 8d. I’m not really sure that is accurate; some of those days might be a bit faster. Memphis and Chicago might add an extra day each, so 10d in total. But as I go through Wisconsin, I am REALLY conscious of the potential weather in December.

Summing it all up

Overall, that would be 20d to Calgary, 45d to the Territories and back to Vancouver, 20d around Vancouver Island, 14d to San Diego, 15d to New Orleans, and 10d to get home = 124 days. If I were to leave the day I retire (August 27), I wouldn’t return until December 29th. I could shave some days off or add in days for car issues, fatigue, or loving an area and wanting to spend more time there, etc. However, I think it’s likely to be a four-month trip.

Wow, I initially thought six months as a huge outlier, but more like 2 in reality. While I’m right in the middle, I thought I would be closer to 2 than to 6!

Now comes the reality check.

First and foremost, I have to figure out the whole logistics (some of which will come in the next post).

Secondly, what does this mean for day-to-day costs? Where will I sleep, what will I eat, etc.

Thirdly, I don’t know if I can even do this from a social perspective. A 4-month trip by myself? Sure, it’s not 1950. I will almost always have full internet access wherever I am and can do FaceTime with Jacob and Andrea, except perhaps in the extreme North, and if I go Starlink, maybe still then.

Fourth, not quite the most important, but close…will I chicken out? This is a HUGE undertaking by myself. If I was travelling with Andrea, separate from the companionship and all of that, it would just be nice to have someone to brainstorm with if something seems daunting. Do I go left or right up here? What does the computer say is the distance to the next campground? Which someone could tell me without me having to pull over to look it up, if there was someone with me. And if travelling together, we could say, “Hey, let’s take a break for a day, no need to stick to the schedule, an extra day here, an extra day there, what would it matter?”.

The trip is enormous and daunting and scares the bejesus out of me, particularly going it alone.

This makes me want to do it even more before I get too old to consider it. I try not to have regrets in my life; I make my choices and move forward, but if I chicken out on this one, I think it’ll top the list.

What else would stop me?

Finally, I come to the most important consideration. My health.

In my current physical condition, there is no way I could undertake it. I just don’t have the agility, stamina, mental fortitude, or general “back” health to do this right now. My heart is fine, blah blah blah, not worried about keeling over anywhere. At least, not any more than sitting home in my easy chair.

But just as I am not some long trek hiker, this trip will still test me physically. And I am not currently up to that test.

Of course, this is the whole point of pre-retirement planning. I need to figure out what I need to have in place financially and physically for me to do this trip, not wait until I retire and go, “oh no, I can’t afford it”. Just as I invest in the financial side of retirement, I need to catch up / buy back some parts of my health and agility with extra investment in the next three years. Starting with my back, general mobility, and then moving on to my weight and ongoing exercise habits. That’s a future month of planning. But this trip IS my most significant practical “need” for my health planning.

In terms of routing and planning, I’m still really concerned with the Territorial / BC portion of the trip as a timing constraint. It is WAY longer than I expected. I really didn’t understand the distances, and we might have to compromise on some of the joint portions to make them work financially and time-wise for Andrea and Jacob. And if I look at a map, my routing skips Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma and Arkansas. I might do some of those later, and it isn’t like I’m collecting Pokemon where I have to get them all…it is more the idea that if I’m already IN the area, should I be doing a bit more zigging and zagging on my way home? Arkansas is a stone’s throw from Memphis, for example. But that thinking might lead to the madness of adding another 30d to my trip home. I’m not COMPLETELY against that idea, true, but well, it seems unlikely. Heck, I might even get to Sudbury and call the whole thing off. Plus, I might have to move some of the trip forward 6w if it means I can guarantee I avoid snow.

Obviously, an ideal scenario in my planning would include some sort of pre-test of this mad-cap scheme. But that’s a question for another post, perhaps. Stay tuned.

Okay, now go ahead, tell me this is ridiculous

That’s my big trip-of-a-lifetime, a white man’s walkabout, err, driveabout in North America. I don’t know whether I’ll find myself, or even if I need to anymore. Maybe I’ll just feel more lost than ever. Or maybe realize that it was all silly self-reflection….Maybe all I really need is a motorcycle and the open road for a couple of days with my brother.

But this trip calls to me. To get a true sense of the continent. A bookend to go with an ocean-crossing cruise, perhaps.

Now, tell me I’m ridiculous. Talk me out of this.

Or tell me about any giant trips that call to you. Not about trips that you would do if you had unlimited funds; tell me about ones you could actually do if you committed to it. Whether you should or not.

Talk to me, Goose.

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RetirePrep, month 2c: Cruising into retirement

The PolyBlog
October 2 2024

After I wrote about large bundled trips or one-off destinations, it is time to talk about potential cruises. As I’ve mentioned, Andrea and I have different views about cruises. Or, put more accurately, we have different views about what a cruise experience might be like, given that neither of us has actually done one.

For me, I like the idea of unpacking once, seeing lots of different places, and seeing the ocean. I also think it’s an interesting way to try some places and decide if you might want to go back for a longer stay. By contrast, Andrea doesn’t like the idea of stopping at one port in a country for half a day and then motoring away; it’s just not worth it. So, larger ocean cruises with lots of destinations are generally out for the two of us.

Inland cruises

Andrea is, however, interested in some cruises that her parents have recently taken, which were basically “inland” cruises in Europe. One was in France, but there are lots of little cruises in different countries. So, instead of only seeing one port, you experience more places within the country. In many respects, that probably doesn’t differ much from a bus tour of France (for example), except you don’t have to pack and unpack every night, and you have a variety of places to sit while passing through the countryside. And, because the boats are generally smaller, you don’t have to worry as much about booking what “ramp time” you want to get on or off at some stop. As noted, France is a clear possibility, but there are many options in Europe.

I have a potential interest in an American one, drifting down the Mississippi River. Unfortunately, some of the ones I found while searching were incredibly expensive, partly because the boats are so small that it’s hard to build much of an economy of scale. I’d love to find out if perhaps there are houseboat rental options to go one way. A later dream to consider.

If I drift really far sideways for a moment, there are some train trips that I could probably group in here, too. A friend of mine did the Trans-Siberian Railway route, which sounded incredible but highly unlikely, and, of course, we love the train routes through the Rockies (either in Canada or the US). Both seem really expensive, however, and I suspect we’d rather put the same money towards some other more exciting destinations.

Coastal cruise

I wonder if the Scandinavian trip (from the “bundling” post) might be better on a small cruise ship, but it’s likely not a strong seller for Andrea. For me, it’s a no-brainer because my main interest is to see the fjords more than cities, but Andrea and Jacob want to be in the cities.

Andrea IS interested in an Alaskan cruise, as am I. I expect we’ll do that one sometime, to be determined when.

Interestingly, there’s another one in this “grouping” that interests her. She likes the idea of a Greek Island cruise. My sister noted that in her experience, cruises were terrible given that you had to constantly get on and off as well as arrange port timings, plus you didn’t really get to see as much in the limited time in-country. I can see that, and it’s Andrea’s primary concern too with some of the regular cruises. But I’d be interested to see if we could find a smaller ship with more accessible arrivals/departures and not that rushed of a pace for the islands. I had noted it originally in a previous post as being more of a “Mediterranean” cruise, but that wasn’t quite right. Andrea’s interest is more like “Greece+” as opposed to “all of the Mediterranean including Greece”. So, it will remain on the list and I would likely rank it third with France and Alaska as strong possibilities. Assuming if and when we do the first one that we like it well enough to do another.

I mentioned previously too that we have a strong interest in going to Antarctica. Of course, that means a ship, not flying, but we tend to think of it as a trip rather than a cruise. It just happens to be on a boat to get us there and back.

A solo float

I was reading an article earlier this month that I quite liked. It talked about how the author’s father used to say, “If you want to understand the world, cross an ocean in a ship.” I might not be getting the quote quite right, but it crystallizes what attracts me to the idea of an open-ocean cruise.

Obviously, I won’t get on a ship to sail to a New World. Nor am I going to go into Space and see new lands. But, in the absence of that, there is something nostalgic that calls to me in sailing from England to Canada, or at least from somewhere in Europe to somewhere in North America. Now, it’s all modern, we’ll avoid scurvy and icebergs, but I do romanticize the idea somewhat. Kind of like glamping is to camping, likely in comparison with the ancestral explorers. But the trip across an ocean appeals if only to get a sense of the true scale of the planet.

I fly, I flit, but I do not traverse the land directly. This is a theme that will come back later this month.

The article that I was reading discussed newer, repositioning cruises, particularly a number of cruise lines that were converting some of their smaller two-person cabins into single cabins and not charging the single supplement. In addition, the cruise that she was on had a “singles” focus to it, with a few lounges and day-areas that were for singles / adults only. Not as a dating thing, just that if you wanted to perhaps sit and read, or fire up your laptop, there weren’t any kids around. The article mentioned several options that were coming online, and that part appealed to me, sure, but it was really about the actual route.

She started in somewhere like NYC, and then they headed North. The first stop was in Canada (it didn’t specify if it was Halifax, Sydney or St. John’s), and the second was in Iceland. Then, several days later, it stopped a couple of times in Scandinavia, over to Scotland, back towards Belgium, and then back to England. A straight-line it was definitely not. It took a slow, meandering route from NYC to the English coast over something like 10 days. It sounded like heaven.

I confess, I’d probably be more interested in going in the opposite direction. But I liked the idea of the crossing and the savings for it being not only a repositioning option but also with some single savings (or avoiding singles gouging). A friend did a cruise from somewhere in the Mediterranean to somewhere in Florida, and it was three weeks or more in mostly open ocean. By contrast, this seemed like a much more manageable duration. Well, except for the potential for rough seas in the North Atlantic.

A basic list is done

As with the other travel options, this one is mostly about creating a basic list of options, and prioritizing them at some point in the future. For now, it is probably enough to say “cruises” as a heading and brainstorming. We eliminated some inland ones in North America that were too expensive (Great Lakes) or not areas that excite us (inland water ways on the East Coast) and since it isn’t Andrea’s dream travel option, the options are pretty short.

Are there any amazing cruises that you think we should have considered?

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RetirePrep, month 2b: A bonanza of destinations

The PolyBlog
October 2 2024

I posted earlier that I’m writing about seven “categories” of trips this month as possible excursions in retirement. The previous post covered large trips that might bundle several destinations together. This one is more about “one-off” destinations. I confess that I don’t have a clear sense of priorities amongst the whole list, more simply the priority within sub-categories.

For North America, there’s not much to make this list because it will be covered extensively by other categories. There are a couple of small exceptions for Canada and the US. For Canada, Nunavut would likely still be unvisited under my other plans, and would therefore be a one-off visit. For the U.S., I think Washington D.C., Hawaii and the Grand Canyon would also be single trips. If I rank them? Probably Hawaii, Grand Canyon, Washington and Nunavut. Four possible destinations; all quite different.

For Central and South America, we really want to do the Galapagos and Patagonia (Argentina and Chile). They would likely be separate trips rather than upgrade to a bundled set. Fifteen years ago, I would have had Belize and Costa Rica on the list, but my interests have changed, and I’m not sure that I trust Brazil enough to keep it on the list. This probably leaves just Peru, and likely on the same trip as a broader Patagonia trip. So, that would be possibly 2-3 trips and generally in the order listed.

For the Caribbean, I am pretty open to any location, outside of Haiti. I think St. Lucia tops my list of potential desired locations, mostly because I was there for work, and it was beautiful, but I didn’t get to see that much. The downside is all the guides basically talk about one walking trip as the “thing to do” and not much else beyond that, unless you’re fishing. There is not much to see and do, nor big resorts with a lot of onsite amenities. It’s also really expensive compared to other locations with not much unique to draw you in. I just liked it; is that a reason to go back? Overall, it’s not a very realistic priority. We’re looking at trips for this year, and as with other vacations previously, it won’t top the list. The Dominican Republic is on the list, although it is pretty commercialized at this point, from what I understand. Not as much perhaps as Cancun, but still. St. Martin definitely interests me, as it seems to have a bit of a different pace and culture. But again, I’d go just about anywhere in there, including a Caribbean cruise if Andrea was willing. Most of them rank about the same to me.

If I look at Western Europe, the bundled options have already knocked out France, Austria, Germany, the UK, and the Nordics. This likely leaves me with Iceland and Italy competing for the top spot. Iceland because it looks amazing; Italy because I’ve been there before and would like to experience it with Andrea (and maybe Jacob). I’ve done parts of Rome but would love to go back, and I did Venice badly (long story focusing on the importance of having the right travelling companion). I also would like to see more of the Italian coast, and if possible, go down to see Ortona (the WWII battle site). After those two, I love the idea of seeing Spain, Greece and Portugal, almost all for coastal / water locales. For Greece, Andrea thought we could do it as a Mediterranean cruise perhaps (more on that in my next post).

For Eastern Europe and its neighbours, Jacob already has bundling plans that would take care of the Czech Republic, Slovakia, the Ukraine, and Hungary options. That only leaves one on my list, really, which is Russia (I know, I know, you want to put it in Asia; I’m old, sue me). I love the idea of seeing Moscow, St. Petersberg, etc., if only for the architecture. And, obviously not, if there’s a war still going on. But we could do it, maybe only Jacob and I (Andrea isn’t as interested), although maybe as part of some package deal rather than on our own. Not a top-of-list priority, but interesting.

For Asia, we already covered off Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam with a potential bundle. I’ve been to China before, or well, to be more accurate, I’ve been to Kowloon/Hong Kong Harbour for a day, Chinese Taipei for 2 days, and Beijing for a week. I’d love to go back, and maybe even go up to the Panda nature reserve, but is it a top-of-list priority? Probably not. Earlier in my life, I was attracted to Malaysia and Tibet, but I’ll take those off my likely list. When Andrea, Jacob and I were talking about different countries, we got a surprise. Andrea and I have a general interest in Japan, but Jacob? He’d like to go there for 2 months or longer. We had no idea. Sounds like a great choice for him for some sort of job program or a semester abroad. I like the idea of Japan but have zero interest in being anywhere near a commuter train and being packed in like sardines. Plus, the cost is exorbitant. It’s on the list though. And I’ll throw Mongolia on the list for fun, an out-of-the-box option.

Oceania and the South Pacific generally, well, it’s already covered. The last bundle covered Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, and Polynesia. The only other thing on my list was something like a diving atoll, but if I saw the Great Barrier Reef, I’d probably be just as happy. I really just want to go snorkelling somewhere awesome; I don’t even care if I dive.

If I group the Middle East, North Africa and South Africa, my list of desired locations is quite small. I like the idea of the Nile in general, but nowhere specific, a cruise perhaps. Egypt is mildly interesting, as is Morocco. But that’s about it until we go back into somewhere like Mount Kilimanjaro or South Africa, or the ability to see Victoria Falls. More a collage than a desire, and outside of something like South Africa, I doubt it will gel into some sort of proposed trip.

So, I’m done, right? Covered everywhere? Not quite. All three of us would love to go to Antarctica. However, besides being expensive, it is not clear if Jacob would enjoy it, since he doesn’t really love boats and it can be quite rough. Plus, it’s one of those trip-of-a-lifetime things for both cost and timing, so not something to be done on a whim. But Jacob loves penguins and seeing them in Antarctica would be amazing.

Tier 1Tier 2Tier 3
North America– Grand Canyon
– Hawaii
– Washington, D.C.– Nunavut
Central and
South
America
– Galapagos– Patagonia– Peru
Caribbean– St. Lucia– St. Martin– Dominican Republic
– Cruise
Western Europe– Iceland
– Italy
– Greece (cruise?)– Portugal
– Spain
Eastern Europe– Russia
Asia– Japan– Mongolia– China
Oceania
and the
South Pacific
– Great Barrier Reef / diving atoll
Middle East
and Africa
– South Africa– Nile
– Victoria Falls
– Mt. Kilimanjaro
– Egypt
– Morocco
Other– Antarctica

In the end, I’ve updated my potential travel list, but I have no idea what I will do with it. This is just MY personal ranking of possible destinations; it isn’t a consensus. I think as I get into actual retirement, Andrea and Jacob can decide when we’re considering new trips if any of these appeal to them. Maybe this just reflects my “input” to the conversation, if you will.

How about you…where do you want to go?

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RetirePrep, month 2a: Travel bundles

The PolyBlog
September 28 2024

As I mentioned in my opening post for the month, I have about 7 categories of trips in mind. The first one I’m going to talk about are trips that are “bundled” destinations that Andrea, Jacob and I are interested in. There are other destinations too, some even nearby, but we kind of see these as bundles we could do as a “grouped set of destinations”. The groupings are not in priority order, as you’ll see from the descriptions.

United Kingdom (4 weeks)

I think the first and most obvious bundle for me is the United Kingdom. Andrea’s uncle and aunt, plus cousins, live in England, and she visited London for a few days back in about 2005 or so as part of a work trip. Jacob and I have never been, and we are both interested. I confess my interest is more primarily London within England, although open to other areas around London. We could probably find enough to keep us busy for 10 days, easily. Various museums, parks, buildings, and perhaps some plays in the West End. Coming from a country where most of our historical sites only go back 200 years, a bigger history palette seems very attractive and interesting. We’re not going for the food or weather, obviously. 🙂

After that, I really want to do Scotland. My screensaver on my TV has shots of various Lochs for the Scottish Highlands, and every film I’ve ever seen with shots of Scotland are just breathtaking. I don’t really know much about Scotland, where I would want to go, how long I would want to be there, etc. Probably a week, or longer if we’re able to drive around the countryside and the coasts.

Andrea wants to do Ireland more than Scotland, Jacob wants to do both…but ultimately we all want to do all three. I’m open to other options too like the Isle of Man, Wales, anything else really. It would be a big trip, and it seems to make some sense to bundle it rather than a series of one-off trips to England, Scotland, etc. Call it another week in total to do the other destinations, about 4 in total.

Paris and friends (4 weeks)

This bundle is primarily Andrea’s bundle. I’ve been to Paris, spent time there for work on more than one occasion, it was nice. But I was also there by myself, and I’m not a great solo traveller when I’m also working. She wants to spend a bunch of time in Paris, which I’m okay to do with her, and it would be nice to share her excitement. The Louvre would be on the list, the Avenue des Champs-Élysées, the Eiffel Tower, a cruise on the Seine perhaps. But for me, that’s probably only about 4-5 days. I like the idea of the Palace des Versailles, a bunch of WWI and II battlefields, Normandy and Juno Beach, etc. I read a book about the first Tour de France after WWI, so I do have SOME interest in the French countryside, but again, it is probably mostly Andrea that would be driving the desire for this bundle. If I seem negative, I don’t mean to do so. I’m sure I would enjoy it, it’s beautiful in photos, but nothing calls to me or resonates with me about France. There are river cruises that go through France, and Andrea might be interested to try one of those, helping us get around. I think another 10 days outside Paris, and that will mean about two weeks in total in France.

After France, Andrea also wants to do Switzerland. While I have been to Geneva, and wandered around a bit there and in the old city, I didn’t do much in Switzerland. I’m open to doing anything that she and Jacob want to do. Jacob is interested in Paris (above), but he is likely more interested in the Swiss Alps. He loves the idea of mountains. They resonate in his soul, calling to him regardless of how small or tall they are. The Alps will be like catnip. I can see us doing Geneva, some other stuff in the Alps, and perhaps a train to Zurich. I’m torn if it would be a full 7 days or only about 5 perhaps. We won’t know until we look at it for active planning, I think.

We were also thinking of adding Austria into this trip, primarily for Vienna. We could do a small detour to take in Munich, then back to hit Salzburg, as we make our way towards Vienna. I confess I know very little about Austria. Andrea loves the idea of Vienna, I would love some of the music centres, and Jacob is fascinated by the history in general of the area. I can’t say it would be a full 7 days again, but perhaps not far off that mark.

Overall, that might put us a bit under four full weeks, hard to say. And if for some reason we ever decided to do Austria as a one-off trip, maybe it might be just France and Switzerland. There are lots of bundled tours and other trips that have Vienna as part of them, so it might be met through another routing.

This would seem like a good bundle for Andrea to want to do as her first “travel” after she retires.

Germany and enemies (4-5 weeks)

Jacob is fascinated by European history, and particularly Germany in the 20th century. He has a huge interest, and I could see him easily doing 10 days in various parts of Germany without breaking a sweat coming up with places to see. I wouldn’t be surprised if he wants to cover Munich, Stuttgart, Nuremburg, Frankfurt, Cologne/Dusseldorf/Essen, Bremen, Hamburg, Leipzig & Dresden, and Potsdam. And that doesn’t even take us to Berlin yet. I have NO idea how he would narrow it down to all the places he wants to see, and if we leave it open to him, 3 weeks is not out of the realm of possibilities. He literally wants to see everything. Andrea and I would probably be okay with about a week. 🙂

Where it gets dicey is after Germany if we’re bundling other countries in. He definitely wants to do Poland. That is a no-brainer for him. Warsaw and Krakow would be obvious, and he can probably name another 5 that would interest him. Call it another 3-6 days, I would think. That might be low, but we’ll call it. Andrea and I would probably be okay with 2 days.

And Jacob thinks we should do Budapest on the same trip. He didn’t mention Bratislava or Kosice in Slovakia, maybe part of another trip. I have no real understanding of the rest of Hungary, he would definitely be the one driving the bus. For him, it’s probably a trip of a lifetime. It is definitely something for his bucket list. One of his possible school trips would include some of these destinations, might tick a box for part of it. But he’s definitely going to want to spend a lot of time, and not as part of an organized group. He’ll choose where he wants to go and it won’t be the obvious tourist traps. I’m excited and scared to have him lead us. Call it another 5-7 days.

Overall, I think we could squeeze it in and remain under 4w, but since it is Jacob’s bucket list trip, I think we’ll end up going over. Call it up to 5 weeks. I could easily see us doing this trip as an “end of high school” / “end of college/university” type trip for Jacob. Or he kicks Andrea and I to the curb, and does it himself as a semester abroad.

Scandinavia (3 weeks)

I have to confess, I have no real idea what this one looks like. We all love the idea of exploring Scandinavia, and we want to cover Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland. Beyond that? I don’t really know.

For me, it’s mainly about the coastlines. And so, it would seem a no-brainer to me to do a cruise. But, as I mentioned earlier, Andrea has no interest in ocean-based cruises. She might go for some river, Alaska, or Mediterranean options, but not much beyond that interests her.

So, this one will likely remain the least defined for me. Whatever Andrea and Jacob want to do, as long as I see fjords, I’ll be covered. I’m ballparking it at 3 weeks, but it could be plus or minus a week.

Vietnam and its neighbours (3 weeks)

We are all interested in Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and Vietnam. The whole region, honestly, but we’d likely keep the bundle to this grouping.

The odd part about this region, though, is that I feel a lot more nervous for arrangements than anywhere else on the list and might want to join some sort of organized tour, where 90% of the arrangements are already built into the plan.

I suspect this option would be unlikely to rise to the list of priorities, so I’m not worried about it. Call it 3 weeks and leave it relatively undefined. If a tour comes up? We’ll consider it.

New Zealand and friends (3-5 weeks)

This one is perhaps the most contentious for scoping. We all generally agree that we could spend two weeks in New Zealand probably, and be good to go. Maybe evenly split, a week on each island.

Where it becomes problematic is how long we would spend in Australia. Andrea has already made a trip back when she was in university, and she joined her aunt and uncle, who were touring around. She thinks anything less than six weeks is too short for Australia. By contrast, I could probably do it in a week and be good. Jacob isn’t super excited either for a longer time. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure more time in Australia would be great. I’d be happy to spend six months in Australia and New Zealand, maybe an entire year down under. But without an unlimited budget to do so, I don’t see that happening.

As much as we are excited about New Zealand, Andrea is not interested in only a short visit to Australia. For her, it’s a waste of time if you can’t do it “properly.” My suspicion is that means we probably won’t be able to go as a group, even though this would likely be my #2 priority overall for a bundled trip.

If the trip happened, I would love to add in some other destinations on the routing. Tasmania? Papua New Guinea perhaps? New Caledonia? Fiji would definitely be on the high-options list. Heck, I’d be willing to skip Australia to do a week in Fiji, where my friend is right now. Or French Polynesia. Let’s face it, any of the islands would make the list of possible “commuting” stops on the way to and from New Zealand. 🙂

If Jacob took care of the Germany bundle through school, I could see us perhaps doing this as a post-graduation / pre-Andrea retiring bundle that could go 5-6 weeks.

Okay, so I have six big bundles

While we have other trips in mind, some that might even go multiple weeks, none of these are the same types where we would be bundling multiple countries in the routing. There is nothing on our list to bundle in Africa or South America. I could see bundling a bunch of Caribbean countries if we were doing a cruise, but that’s not on the list. And there’s a potential for a Mediterranean cruise, although that interest is likely more about Greece than trying to merge multiple destinations.

Just for simple cost and logistics, I suspect we can do one bundle with Jacob before he graduates college or university and perhaps one bundle in our retirement i.e., after Andrea retires. The rest, we could tick off part of them as a one-off trip. For example, maybe we don’t do the France / Switzerland / Austria bundle; we just do 10 days in France. Or we don’t do the UK bundle; we just do a week in London and another trip another time for a week in Scotland.

Once we get to the stage where any of these are on our radar, I suspect we’ll pick one of the six to do and just blitz through for timing and what to do. We have good resources to chat with about destinations, once chosen. My niece Liz works for CAA on the travel side; my sister-in-law is now an expert in packaged tours having done a whack of them herself; Andrea’s parents have been doing a number of different trips in Europe, including some river cruises (which has sparked Andrea’s interest); and then there’s our friend Vivian. She has the travel bug, and is our “most-travelled” friend. She’ll be a great source of info, although her types of trips and level of effort on a given day will far surpass our approach. Oh, and Andrea has a friend who is a travel writer. That’s not a bad stash of friends and family to be able to pick their brains when we get there.

For now, the only real “to do” list item for me was to come up with the list itself. And, by the time of retirement, to pick which one of the bundles to actually do first.

Next up on the travel opportunities list later this week? The bonanza of single trip destinations that populate our potential “go to” list.

But enough about me…where would you like to go for a “bundled” trip?

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RetirePrep: Focusing on travel in month 2…

The PolyBlog
September 28 2024

As I mentioned a month ago, I have a list of 12 areas that I want to brainstorm about in the next year to help me figure out a more detailed retirement plan, and be ready to pull the trigger on it in August 2027.

I have my list of 12 topics, and I created a natural order to them. This month was supposed to be about health and kickstarting a health regime. Except I started thinking about travel in the last month, and I fell down a rabbit hole for part of it. So much so that I became somewhat obsessed in the last few weeks with what I might do for travel in my retirement.

Way back in my distant goal-setting past, I had a bucket list of everywhere I wanted to go. Pretty much a list of 50% of the countries in the world, broken down by continent. I had almost no filter, it was just a wishlist of places to go if I had unlimited funds. But that is NOT the world I live in, alas.

So, I’m starting to see my plans for travel in a different light. Rather than breaking it down by random countries, I see it more as a group of seven categories of trips:

  1. Bundles — These trips would include a group of several countries together that would make for a longer trip, perhaps a month-long visit. These options will be tricky because they are longer and generally are trips that Jacob would LIKE to join us for, but by the time we get around to doing them, he might be tied up with his own school, work or family and not able to, but Andrea and I would still do most of them, I think.
  2. Bonanza — These would be any trip that is likely to be a single destination for a week or so, which could be done at any time, there’s no real additional planning required. They would include Andrea and I, and possibly Jacob, or possibly not if we go after he’s moved out and on his own.
  3. Cruise — Andrea has no interest in an ocean cruise (she’s open to river cruises though). She thinks it’s a complete waste as you don’t visit any country long enough to see anything, etc. I have some ideas of what might be doable alone for me without having to pay the single supplement and pricing myself out of options;
  4. Walkabout — a specific trip that I want to do, kind of like “To (destination) or bust!”. Almost all of this long trip would be by myself, as Andrea isn’t particularly interested. She and Jacob would likely join for part of it, which is also tricky for timing, but this is the trip option that has sent me down the rabbit hole in the last month.
  5. Walkabout Part 2 — Again, this is likely a single trip by me alone, similar to #4, just with different destinations and a shorter duration.
  6. Echo — I don’t quite know what this looks like, probably just me going, but I’m not even sure I want to do all of it. I’ve been to most of it already, it is really ONLY two segments that I haven’t done at all, and two others that I didn’t do much in. Is it worth repeating? It could theoretically be merged with #5.
  7. Residency — this is an interesting combo of #1 and #4/5 where we might move somewhere for a set period of time to really experience it. Not as wild and crazy as what most people would do, this is a much tamer option, but quite interesting.

And so I’m going to write about those seven areas this month.

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